Henry definitely had a roving eye, and history all over the shows that Kings were known to have mistresses and concubines, it was almost expected. Henry was obsessed with having an heir to continue the Tudor line. It was his singular obsession, and he treated his wives as breeding machines. Anne fell out of favour with Henry when first she gave birth to a daughter, and the miscarried a son.
Cromwell, and others, used that to poison Henry against Anne — but of course, Henry was the one who wanted rid of Anne… he had set his sights on the innocent, virginal Jane, and he wanted Anne out of the way.
Cromwell may have used the right words, but Henry was more than receptive. Anne might not have been a saint. She as a tough woman, she was ambitious encouraged by her father and uncle , but she did not deserve to be treated the way she was. Cromwell was a loyal servant to the King.
But he served the King loyally. He was a great statesman and ran a successful parliament. In the end he fell victim to his own meteoric rise… he got too comfortable and used his position to serve his own cause,… in suggesting the marriage to Anne of Cleves, as he believed in would serve the Protestant Reformation. It was his ambition that killed him.
Henry VIII might have been a paranoid tyrant in his later years , but he was a great King and changed the face of England whether to good or bad is for each individual to decide.
He produced Queen Elizabeth I who was one of the best monarchs in British history. We need to remember that history is written by the winners, and that historians, despite their claims to the contrary, will always have a biased view, based on their own personal, political, religious, or whatever beliefs.
We can only examine the facts as we know them, and make our own conclusions. After all, can we honestly say that given the same opportunities as Anne Boleyn, Thomas Cromwell, the Seymour brothers, Charles Brandon and many others, that we would not use our ambitions and self-serving interests to do the same? Whatever evil they may or may not have done in their lives, was forgiven by the grisly manner of their death.
Finally, thanks so much for that long and very necessary comment. It was annoying and sad seeing all the haters who seem to have barely touched a history book commenting on how certain historical figures should have been treated. So many people here commenting about how Cromwell deserves to burn in hell for what he did to Anne Boleyn. You guys like Anne and support her wholeheartedly, I get it.
It seems like he was doing anything and everything he could to remain in the Kings good graces and retain his own powers. No need for all the hate here. History is there to be learned from. And more to do yet to improve the system of government further! Thomas Cromwell did the best for England and wanted Henry to marry Anne of Cleves because it would bring a strong alliance as England were hated by the French as the death of cardinal Pole.
Thomas Cromwell did the bad things because Henry forced him to and Henry never gave the chance for Thomas to actually give him the right advice. I find it astonishing the amount of hate so many can have for a man they never met. I have a had time fathoming the things people can do to each other and the pain they can give. Thomas Cromwell is an amazing study in social mobility. I look forward to more commentary. We should all appreciate our 21st C good fortune to commentate on this website today!
I look on Henry and his court as being like a Mafia family. This is not a very academic way of looking at the Tudors but it is not at all inaccurate. We Americans can hardly give a thought to anything that happened before we were born, unless we saw a movie about it. We impeach presidents because they got a blow job once, but we tolerate absolute nut-cases like Sir Donald the Trampe.
The majority of site visitors are American, though, so please be assured that Americans love Tudor history too. Henry was a mentally ill man. From there all bad and sadness came to all who were close to him. How sad…. Personally, i cannot stand to have someone touch me unless i care an awful LOT fot that person. She had failed to produce him a male heir, like her predecessor, so she was either going to be killed or divorced She was labelled for death because of rumours of her adultery and incestuous behaviour-when this was all just fabricated by the King to get rid of her.
He paid the price by dying for your sins under the hopeful pretext that you accept Him as your Savior. Cromwell lead an evil life.
Make no mistake about that. Yes, he rose from the lower ranks. So what. It happens all the time. Ann Boleyn was just one of many offenses. This is beheading. A gruesome death reserved for the very worst of criminals.
No person could have been more innocent than Thomas More and Cromwell formed the most egregious levels of lies to exact his death. A man with 6 wives and who died rotting from the inside had, via Parliament, declared himself a papal equivalent on earth and head of the Church of England. Spare me. This was the introduction of a more permanent and diabolical error that countered Catholicism.
She promised the King sons. How was she to know that it took more than wanting to; that it took more than promising to. She thought it would be as easy as that — a simple promise; easy as that. That promise was her downfall. Where does that come from? Far from being great benefactors of the poor. Monasteries were great generators of revenue for the church using fake relics to attract the gullible etc. Some good was done but lets not get carried away with that notion.
If they wanted to educate the masses they could have done so much more effectively by spending more of their revenue on schools etc, than on false artifacts and lies that eventually bought about the reformation. Then again, i saw quite a few with the same appearance……. That is all. OLiver Cromwell was a completely different man. I am related to Anne Boleyn and her sister Mary….. By being the King trusted servant does not prevent Cromwell from giving pieces of advice that would prevent the King from his eagerness and unsatisfactory attitudes.
However, Cromwell was so focused on pleasing the King than guiding him in making sound decisions. First of all Thomas Cromwell died years ago so the personal comments on the state of his soul are illogical. Yes, AB was innocent, but Henry Viii was ultimately responsible for her death, not Cromwell, although his role was considerable. The actual charges against him are ludicrous. He was also kept alive long enough to give his account of the problems Henry created with Anne of Cleves.
The Cleves match was actually beneficial to England. Had Henry not had sexual problems it would have succeeded. The political situation changed during the marriage and Henry invented his reasons for the annulment. Cromwell was conveniently blamed. I think he did a lot of bad things in his life, but mostly because he was serving Henry Viii.
I would recommend people do some research before making most of the comments above. Try to keep things in perspective and present a balanced view.
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Claire says:. July 29, at pm. Rachel says:. FabNayNay says:. July 23, at am. From being drunk on the job to deliberate foul play to simple yet horrific mistakes - this list proves that execution doesn't always guarantee a quick death:. Traditionally royalty got a bit of a break when it came to execution. If condemned to die, they were usually ordered to be beheaded, and by an experienced executioner who was skilled enough to do the job with one blow to the neck.
Unfortunately, for Mary Queen of Scots she did not receive quite the royal treatment. She was beheaded for treason on February 8, and on the first blow it missed and hit the back of her head.
She supposedly groaned in pain, and was killed by a second blow. Her head still attached, it took a final third strike to decapitate. The executioner then lifted the head and said "God Save the Queen" only for it be revealed that Mary had been wearing a wig and her head dropped and rolled onto the ground in front of several hundred shocked witnesses.
Read more about: Ancient History Ouch! Thomas Cromwell was a loyal servant with Henry VIII, until Henry feared he was gaining too much control and fell out of his good books.
He was arrested in with multiple charges that he had acted against the King, including high treason. He was not granted a trial but was spared being hung, drawn and quartered and sentenced to be beheaded. He was beheaded on 28 July aged between 54 and It was rumoured at the time that he was given a poorly skilled executioner and that it took several blows to decapitate him.
His contemporary, chronicler Edward Hall wrote that Cromwell, "So paciently suffered the stroke of the axe, by a ragged and Boocherly miser, whiche very ungoodly perfourmed the office. Bizarre though it may seem nowadays, there were scaffold civilities that had to be observed. The headsman would kneel and ask forgiveness of the condemned, who would grant it gladly, with a smile, a kind word and maybe a gift.
There was no need for malice between the two. The one was not just the instrument of judgement, he was also sending the other out of this troubled life to a better world he hoped. My guess, therefore, is that there was only one stroke of the axe, but this executioner behaved spitefully in some way that Hall does not describe in detail. Maybe Cromwell was manhandled, or maybe there was some coarse ribaldry before or after the deed was done. Others, like Hilles and Foxe, either did not know what had offended Hall, or if they did, they thought it not worthy of a mention.
Cromwell, still cheerful, bid him take heart and not fear. And though the breakfast which we are going to be sharp, yet trusting to the mercy of the Lord, we shall have a joyful dinner. Let us hope he enjoyed his dinner. And that Henry joined him shortly after.
It is pleasing to think of them reunited in realms above. Likewise Henry and his six wives happily together at last, with no divorce trials or crises of conscience to worry about; and Elizabeth and other Tudor favourites, all perfect friends at the same convivial table, having a good old laugh at the stories we still tell about them.
By John Schofield. She was shot ten times, pronounced dead and carried off to the morgue. As they were preparing for the next execution, a cry was heard from within. What happened next was like something from a horror movie: Lorsoongnern was discovered trying to sit up. A second round of bullets eventually ended her life, and it was later discovered that she had survived her first execution due to her heart being on the right side of her body.
American murderer Wallace Wilkerson did not enjoy a quick and easy death. In , a fight broke out between Wallace and another man over accusations of cheating during a card game, leading to Wallace shooting the other man in the head. Wallace was found guilty and chose to be executed by firing squad rather than hanging.
On 16 May , Wallace was seated in front of the gunmen with a target pinned over his heart. At the sound of the countdown, he sat up straight and unintentionally moved the target.
All of the bullets missed his heart and he tried to leap from the chair, screaming, but bled to death after nearly 30 minutes. Sign in. Back to Main menu Virtual events Masterclasses.
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